Non-Qualified Annuity

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MFC
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Non-Qualified Annuity

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US citizen living in Canada with a non-qualified annuity (purchased with after tax $). I think this must be similar to a non-registered segregated fund in Canada? In which case, I think only the growth is taxable?

I received a 1099-R slip with $5800 in box 1 (gross), $3300 in box 2a (taxable), $2500 in box 5 (employee contributions), $3300 in box 14 (state distribution) and box 7 has 7D in it.

Any one have any idea how this is taxed in Canada and the US?
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Post by nelsona »

In both US and Canada, this is an annuity, taxed at regular rates. The taxable portion in US (and thus Canada) is US$3300.
Canada will grant you FTC based on average tax rate your pay on $3300 of income calculated on your 1040.
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Post by MFC »

Thanks for the quick response, this is helps a lot :)

I read somewhere that the foreign tax credit I can claim in Canada for a US citizen is limited to 15% for pension income. Is this correct? If so, does this apply to this annuity?

Also, I have over $100K in the annuity, do you know if I have to report it on the T1135 Foreign Income Form?
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Post by nelsona »

Yes, this is true . However I'm quite sure your us tax rate is not 15% effective.
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The T1115 regs change monthly, Read the current form and decide
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Post by MFC »

Yeah, you are probably right, effective tax rate is likely below 15%.

Ok will check out the T1135 and see what I can find out.

I have one more issue I'm not too sure about. I have a 1099-DIV with 1a ordinary div, 2a capital gain dist'n and 3 non-div dist'n. I read elsewhere on this forum and came up with this.

1a taxed at 100% in Canada and can't gross up or claim div tax credit (can claim FTC up to 15%)
2a taxed at 100% in Canada (can't claim FTC)
3 not taxable as this is similar to return of capital

Do I understand this correctly? Thanks so much for all your help.
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Post by nelsona »

1a and 2a correct (you can claim FTC on 2a on 1116 by re-sourcing).
3 is non-taxable.
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