Moving to USA, how to do with Canadian cash?

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xiaoice
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Moving to USA, how to do with Canadian cash?

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I will move to USA in the next few weeks. I have >10K CAD in my non-registered saving account (saved for my kid's education in future). Might come back to Canada years later (not sure). What should I do with the cash? Options thinking:

(1) buy ETF (e.g. XEF, XEC, etc) which provides PFIC annual statement;
(2) buy GIC which doesn't require PFIC reporting
(3) convert to USA dollar and deposit to US bank


How complicate the PFIC reporting is? Does it worth to buy ETF in Canada? Thanks!
jixca
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Post by jixca »

Check out this https://philosopherc.wordpress.com/2014 ... checklist/ if you have not yet left Canada

Also https://philosopherc.wordpress.com/2014 ... ax-return/ is helpful to determine what your first tax year will look like
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Post by nelsona »

1. Since you cannot keep a brokerage account in Canada once you leave, there is no point buying a a Cdn ETF either. You will be forced to ell it at some point.

personally, the dollar isn't going up anytime soon, so leaving it in Canada with that hope is not a great move. Keep a Cdn bank account and credit card for Cdn affairs/trips, and have it funded sufficiently so as not to have to transfer cash to it very often., and bring the rest to US.
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Post by xiaoice »

I have my RSP with TD Direct Investing, and just open an non-registered account there too. I was told I can invest ETF/mutual fund in the non-registered account before leaving Canada and keep it. I have the option to sell them anytime in future, but won't be able to buy more...
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Post by xiaoice »

Thank you Jixca. Very helpful!
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Post by nelsona »

OK. That is their current position. They may change their policy at any time and insist that you close the account.

make sure you still keep a straight bank account and credit card, too.
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Post by jixca »

I would choose #3 if I had the chance to re plan my US move.

Just look at the number of forms below you may have to file from that URL if filing 1040. ETF will require 8621 Fbar 3938 already with 10k+ amount.

If you have time left, convert to USD at a favorable rate or if there's no time left just find the highest interest saving account in CAD.

10K is not worth the hassle of doing these forms when each one can cost $300-500 per form if done by professional, the earnings from 10k will be eaten away by those fees or your time spent x your hour rate.
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Post by xiaoice »

sorry it is >100K
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Post by nelsona »

keeping $100K in cash is never a wise investment, regardless of the currency

As I said, put a decent amount in a Cdn checking account and have a credit card, and get the rest into US working for you and growing tax-free, like in your Roth, your house, etc.
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Post by xiaoice »

Sounds a plan. Thanks, Nelsona.
Appreciate a lot.
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Post by xiaoice »

I am thinking to convert CAD cash to USD from time to time, instead of all-once because of the low exchange rate. In that case, I would still have quite large CAD available in cash.

How complicated the PFIC reporting would be if I invest ~ 50K in mutual fund or ETF in Canada now, right before I move to USA. I won't use this money for at least 5 years...
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