Canadian PR and Husband working in US on H1B.

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Krista
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Canadian PR and Husband working in US on H1B.

Post by Krista »

Hello Forum,

I am a Canadian PR holder and I have moved to Canada on 2nd July 2012. But my husband is still working in the US on H1B.

Neither of us are citizens of US nor Canada. My husband is planning to file taxes in US and I am planning to file in Canada.

Can someone please suggest how to go about this?

Thank You
Krista
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Post by Krista »

Also forgot to mention, I have two kids who are my dependants and living with me in Canada. I did not work in the year 2012.
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Post by nelsona »

This situation is a little tricky, as your presence in Canada can make hime required to file Cdn taxes.

However, by avoiding visiting you in canada, nor spending much time there, he should be able to remain non-resident of canada. You would become resident as of july 2 2012, and would indicate this on your tax return. Lok at the Newcomers guide on the CRA website, as there is special requiremens in reporting your spouses income, to get the correct child credits etc, even though he is not required to file a Cdnm tax return.

He will of course still be filing a uS tax return, and is allowed to continue using you and your kids as dependants and jointly filing (which will result in lowering his US tax).

While in this situation, I would avoid starting any TFSA or RESP in your name, although RRSP would be fine.
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Just to clarify, he should MINIMIZE his visits to canada. Some ocasional vists would not be a problem. I'm talking every weekend, or months at a time.
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Post by Krista »

[quote="nelsona"]Just to clarify, he should MINIMIZE his visits to canada. Some ocasional vists would not be a problem. I'm talking every weekend, or months at a time.[/quote]

Months at a time is not an options, but say two weekends per month. Sometimes a whole week that would be 4-5 times a year. would that matter ?
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Post by Krista »

[quote="nelsona"]This situation is a little tricky, as your presence in Canada can make hime required to file Cdn taxes.

However, by avoiding visiting you in canada, nor spending much time there, he should be able to remain non-resident of canada. You would become resident as of july 2 2012, and would indicate this on your tax return. Lok at the Newcomers guide on the CRA website, as there is special requiremens in reporting your spouses income, to get the correct child credits etc, even though he is not required to file a Cdnm tax return.

He will of course still be filing a uS tax return, and is allowed to continue using you and your kids as dependants and jointly filing (which will result in lowering his US tax).

While in this situation, I would avoid starting any TFSA or RESP in your name, although RRSP would be fine.[/quote]

Hi Nelsona,

Thank you for your prompt response. At this time I do not wish to invest in TFSA or RESP or any schemes.

1. Regarding reporting my spouse income in the US, will I have to provide any proof of income?

2. My husband is joint bank account holder and has SIN, in that case does he have to file jointly?

3. Due to the complexity, should I have a tax consultant help me file taxes or would turbo tax work for me.

4. If I had to take a job in 2013, how would that impact the filing jointly in the US.

Appreicate your time on helping with these.

Thank You

-Krista.
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Post by nelsona »

Please don't use the "quote" buttoin, it merely confused the postings. I know what I wrote.

1. You could be aske to provide proof. To incorrectly report his income on your return, especilly for the receipt of CCTB or GST would be fraudulent.
2. No, this would not require him to file. There is no such thing as joint filing in Canada.
3. Ufile would work for you.
4. YOu should continue to file jointly, otherwise his US tax rate will be exorbitant.
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Post by Krista »

This is the first time I am filing in Canada. In that case will Ufile work?

Also need some more information regarding how to apply for Universal child Credit, Child tax credit and GST/HST credit.

Do I have to apply prior to filing returns
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Post by Krista »

Also I was going through the form for Child Tax Credit and there it ask for net income.

Does that mean the I have to specify my spouse US income after taxes (the paycheck amount) or the income that is reported on the company offer letter or is it from the W2.
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Post by nelsona »

You have to provide his 2012 net income from the numbers on his 1040.

Don't confuse tax software, with netfiling. All software can generate a paper return. Whether or not you can netfile may require info from previous tax return, which would make you inelible.

Netfiling in the first year is pretty unusaul, but, I guess you'll find out.

If you fail to report your husbands net income when claiming CCTB and GST, that is fraud.
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Post by Krista »

I could not find any net income, there is Gross Income and Taxable income.

So does the taxable income signify the net income ?
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Post by nelsona »

Krista, I would advise you to read more carefully the required forms for CCTB. As you see, iyour spouse will need to fill special request and income forms. see RC66SCH for example.


For 99% of US residents, their gross income in US would be the same amount their net income in Canada, so use that number. Do not use taxable income from 1040, since this is after deductions which do not apply to Canada.

As to any further info for these credits, I'm leaving this with you
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Post by Krista »

Thanks nelsona,

Your inputs are definately helpful.

I do not wish to hide any income or misinterpret information. I was just checking on the forum to make sure that I do not overstate or understate my spouse income.

We arrived in July 12 and I have not yet filed for Universal Child Credit nor the Child Tax Credit. I will be doing it sometime this month.
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