Overseas Employment Tax Credit question (T626)

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rinconns
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Overseas Employment Tax Credit question (T626)

Post by rinconns »

I have read through many pages on the CRA website about the Overseas Employment Tax Credit. But I still need some clarification.

My residance is Nova Scotia, I work in the USA that provides services to a natural gas drilling company. I am a supervisor, salesman and do employee training. We have a CDN company and a registered USA company. I have been working there since Jan 2010 on an L1 work visa. I am on salary and paid from the CDN company. I do make peridioc trips back to Canada for vacation time. But about 80-90% of my time is spent in USA.

From this does it seem like I would qualify for the tax excemption?
Also I bought a vehicle I use to travel from Canada to USA. I pay my own travel expenses. Can I deduct this as well

thanks in advance
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Post by nelsona »

You are a Cdn resident, but will have to file a 1040NR to report your wages earned while in US income because you have spent more than 183 days in US in 2010. You may also have to file state taxes where you worked.

Yes, you are eligible for OETC. You also have the option of simply claiming your US tax as a credit instead.

Some of your mileage expenses may be deductible, traveling between assignments, probably not day-to-day, but I'll let someone else answer this, as this is not a cross-border issue.

Is there a particular reason why you do not consider yourself Non-resisnt of canada? You left canada in jan 2010.
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Post by rinconns »

thanks for the quick reply.

The reason I still consider myself a resident of Canada is, my home, vehicle's, family, credit cards bank accounts etc, are all in Canada.

I live in NS, my home office is based in Alberta, with a USA office where I currently work. I work in the usa for 4-6 weeks at a time and tak 10 days off for vacation at home in Canada.

I do not beleive in any way i qualify as a non resident of Canada.

Now you bring me to another question, what are my responsibilities in paying tax in the USA. I was told this is only for people who consult and are not employed and payed by a CDN firm.
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Post by rinconns »

one further question if you dont mind.
I made aprox 92,000 in earnings, with about 24,000 paid in taxes.
So if should be able to get 80% of the 24,000 back?

I will really need to see an accountant to work all of this out. But Im just trying to see where I stand right now
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Post by JGCA »

No the OSETC is not based on the tax you paid it is merely a credit that allows you to deduct from you employment income an amount to be credited to you on line 426 from form T626. The essence of this credit is simply based on the fact that you were employed outside of Canada on a qualifying work site so since you were a non resident at that point of time this amount should not be taxed in Canada so this is a releiving mechanism to allow this. As an accountant I can tell you that it is a simple manouvre once you have the dult=y completed form attached to your T1 to allow this credit against tax payable in the year.
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Post by nelsona »

Just to clarify JGCA's comment, OETC does NOT imply any period of non-residency, but rather "non-presence" in canada.

If one were truly non-resident, then OETC wouldn't apply, one simply wouldn't be taxable in canada on that income.

That is why I asked about the residency status of our poster.

You are taxable in US on your US-sourced income because you have been in US tooo long, and you have a fixed based. Your being on L1 would seem to indicate a US firm employs you, thus your income is taxable there on a 1040NR.

I can buy that you remain Cdn resident, but you do have a choice.
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Post by rinconns »

thanks for the help
yes i am on L1. I am employed the the CDN division to setup the USA division. This psoition will only be temporay. Maybe another year. I am on the canadian payroll currently. Im being paid and taxed as if I was still working in Canada. I receive no funds from the USA operation.
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Post by JGCA »

Yes Nelsona is correct I did not mean you were a non resident I just equated the scanario that a non resident is not tax in Canada so Canada has come up with this overseas tax credit for the period one is not present in Canada to allow them a credit.
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Post by rinconns »

I spoke with a CRA rep.
She says the USA is not considered overseas because there is no sea between us thus I should not qualify for the OETC.

Am i correct to assume she bumped her head?
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Post by nelsona »

Lesson learned.

NEVER, EVER call CRA telephlunkies for a question.
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Post by rinconns »

lol yeah

Im trying to overcome the hurdle of having my employer fill out the T626 form. And from my understanding, they have no legal obligation to do so. Crossing my fingers
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Post by nelsona »

Its a formality. If they aren't willing to sign this, what other ways do they like to stiff you?
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Post by rinconns »

Well they are actually a very decent company to work for. They just like to really play by the book, and would rather err on the side of caution. I just have to do some ass kissing.
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Post by nelsona »

If you have to ass-kiss to get them to sign a form, i shudder to think what you have to do to get your paycheck. ;o)
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Post by rinconns »

Well I think the concern is, if they fill out the form and in turn CRA deems me non eligible does it blow back on them
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