CESG grants taxable by IRS?

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dave23100
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CESG grants taxable by IRS?

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Are the CESG grants that called income by the IRS, or not? If yes, it would be somewhat useless to have a RESP for my kids

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They are not taxable in US, until the child takes the income, like in Canada.
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Sorry, checked with my sources, (BDO) and the grant IS indeed taxable.

http://www.bdo.ca/en/Library/Services/T ... Canada.pdf
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Post by dave23100 »

Thanks for checking-- do you think the BDO checked that out with the IRS, or is that just their opinion?

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BDO doesn't just spew out off the cuff information under its masthead.
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Post by Sylvia »

I've been reading all the RESP threads but I'm still a bit confused by something.

From what I've read so far, because RESPs are grantor trusts, if U.S. citizen parent was a subscriber, they would have to report the CESG/CLB and all dividends/interest for the year to the IRS.

However, it also appears as though a beneficiary who is also a U.S. citizen would also have to file for the annual amounts they withdraw once they attend school? Hasn't all the income already been taxed in the U.S. parent's hands years ago?
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Post by nelsona »

Yes... and so? Capital gains tax is tax on money that was already taxed.

No one says that money can only be taxed once.
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Post by Sylvia »

You're absolutely right, now that I think of it. There's a perverse logic to RESP double taxation considering the phenomenon of estate taxes.

You have a real gift for making the confusing suddenly obvious :) I enjoy your posts.
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