Individual Taxpayer Identificaton Number

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Rose
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Individual Taxpayer Identificaton Number

Post by Rose »

I am an independent consultant, living in Canada, working for a company in the US. Do I need to obain an Individual Taxpayer Identification Number (ITIN) from the IRS?
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Post by nelsona »

Only if you need to file a return in US.
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Rose
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Post by Rose »

What determines whether I have to file a return or not?
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Post by nelsona »

Don't really understand your question.

You are a contractor, not an employee. and have no base in US. thus you do not have any US taxable income, and are neither a citizen nor a resident of US. Also, no US tax has been incorrectly withheld from you, which you would need to recoup.

So, unless your spouse is a US citizen and wished to file jointly with you, you don't need an ITIN.

You will only get an ITIN once you file a return.
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Rose
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Post by Rose »

Yes I am a contractor and not an employee. My question stems from some of the research that I have done. I have come across a lot of literature that suggests I should be completing Form 8233 on an annual basis and submitting it to the US company. Do I not need to do this?

Second question, the US company wants to submit form 1042S to the IRS - this form requires an ITIN. They have asked me for one. Should they not be submitting this form?
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Post by nelsona »

1042S does not require an ITIN. it states "If any". When you give your first 8233 to the firm (if they want it), you will get an ITIN by sending a copy along a W-7 to IRS. I already told you in another post that you "could" file an 8233.

The purpose of 8233 is to prevent withholding. But you aren't being withheld.
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Rose
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Post by Rose »

Okay - thanks for your help. I did some more research on the web and just got myself all confused.
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