Cash-out RRSP/RPP vs. Annuity

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ste14mi
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Cash-out RRSP/RPP vs. Annuity

Post by ste14mi »

Not looking for investment advice here, just looking at tax implications so all you annuity-haters please cool your jets.

Status: Canadian living in US since 2001, green carded since 2004.

I have about $275K in Cdn RPP and $200K in Cdn RRSP which I have been duly reporting to the IRS via 8891 every year, deferring income. Now I am going to retire in 2015 and face the decision of how to take out the money. Leaving aside the financial benefits/liabilities of annuities, does it more tax sense to cash out them both completely and deal with the tax due then (25% of total $475K, correct?) or take the money as a stream (via annuity) and pay taxes annually.

Sorry for such a basic question, but I'm just trying to get my head around the implications and figure if the 15% vs. 25% rate comes into play here.
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Post by nelsona »

Since you are retiring, I would be streaming it out.

You don't need to do all in an annuity to get the 15%. Take the RPP as a pension or move it to a LIRA or LIF and convert the RRSP into a RRIF.

The RPP funds will be taxed at 100% in US, and the RRSP would be taxed based on the gain since 2001.

The 15% will be better meshed with your US tax rate.
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ste14mi
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Post by ste14mi »

Thanks for the thought-out and reasoned reply. Just the type of info I was looking for.

Thanks
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